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Originally Posted by Charlotte
Thanks for that, I'll take a look! It's just with all the cashbacks and things I'm confusing myself. With the D60, some sites say you get £40 back and some £60, and then some seem to have it already included, but the price doesn't seem to be much different to the ones that do - phew! I'll ge there in the end!
That was me, I had pieces of paper with notes all over them
Poor man at my local camera shop, I swear his eyes rolled when I walked in
Honestly take your time choosing,it is confusing, but I would say set your price limit and stick to it
Otherwise your list keeps growing
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If your looking at an entry level Nikon, i personally feel the D60 is the way to go. It is an easy camera to use with a very simple to navigate interface. The noise levels at a higher ISO are controled very nicley compared to the 40 range and pictures are of a good quality. The downside to this camera is the same as that in the 40 range - the AF system. Your looking at a smaller range of lenses that will auto zoom on your camera. This can be a pain in the bum if your looking at shoting faster subjects as you will need to manually focus. However if you asre shooting still life or subjects, then lack of AF shouldnt hinder to you.
Canon ranges are also definatly worth looking into, so please dont feel you need to be pushed or pigeon holed into the Nikon or Canon camp. The Canon EOS400D is a very popular DSLR. This does have an AF system compatible with all Canon lenses and the build quality is very compact and sturdy. On the down side, the camera can suffer from Chroma Noise, but this can go reletivly un-noticed by new comers as can the lower saturation of colours (compared to the Nikon range)
Get out and have a play with some cameras. Buying a camera is like going out and buying a car. Nobody can give you a solid right or wrong answer as cameras are very much about the individual buying them.
Canon ranges are also definatly worth looking into, so please dont feel you need to be pushed or pigeon holed into the Nikon or Canon camp. The Canon EOS400D is a very popular DSLR. This does have an AF system compatible with all Canon lenses and the build quality is very compact and sturdy. On the down side, the camera can suffer from Chroma Noise, but this can go reletivly un-noticed by new comers as can the lower saturation of colours (compared to the Nikon range)
Get out and have a play with some cameras. Buying a camera is like going out and buying a car. Nobody can give you a solid right or wrong answer as cameras are very much about the individual buying them.
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Originally Posted by Bazza
I did see the D60 at Focus on Imaging at the NEC back in March. I was quite impressed with it and its features, it was smaller than I expected and my only concern would be the balance ratio between camera and some of the longer lenses. So if you do go and look in shops don't forget to see how well balanced the camera is with a short and then a long lens. Something you may not have considered
So ask to try out both even though at the moment you may just want an all round lens, its worth knowing in advance only an unbalanced rig can cause more camera shake than you would like.
Bazza
So ask to try out both even though at the moment you may just want an all round lens, its worth knowing in advance only an unbalanced rig can cause more camera shake than you would like.
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Hi Charlotte,
I have the Nikon D40, and for action shots it takes about 2 1/2 pics a second, and I've got some quite nice ones of Jack with it doing agility, the lens I use at the moment is 55-200mm, but, and I may be wrong, if you have larger lenses they are heavier and you'd need a tripod, which isn't ideal when you are trying to capture a speeding dog
I have the Nikon D40, and for action shots it takes about 2 1/2 pics a second, and I've got some quite nice ones of Jack with it doing agility, the lens I use at the moment is 55-200mm, but, and I may be wrong, if you have larger lenses they are heavier and you'd need a tripod, which isn't ideal when you are trying to capture a speeding dog
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Originally Posted by Kanikula
If your looking at an entry level Nikon, i personally feel the D60 is the way to go. It is an easy camera to use with a very simple to navigate interface. The noise levels at a higher ISO are controled very nicley compared to the 40 range and pictures are of a good quality. The downside to this camera is the same as that in the 40 range - the AF system. Your looking at a smaller range of lenses that will auto zoom on your camera. This can be a pain in the bum if your looking at shoting faster subjects as you will need to manually focus. However if you asre shooting still life or subjects, then lack of AF shouldnt hinder to you.
Canon ranges are also definatly worth looking into, so please dont feel you need to be pushed or pigeon holed into the Nikon or Canon camp. The Canon EOS400D is a very popular DSLR. This does have an AF system compatible with all Canon lenses and the build quality is very compact and sturdy. On the down side, the camera can suffer from Chroma Noise, but this can go reletivly un-noticed by new comers as can the lower saturation of colours (compared to the Nikon range)
Get out and have a play with some cameras. Buying a camera is like going out and buying a car. Nobody can give you a solid right or wrong answer as cameras are very much about the individual buying them.
Canon ranges are also definatly worth looking into, so please dont feel you need to be pushed or pigeon holed into the Nikon or Canon camp. The Canon EOS400D is a very popular DSLR. This does have an AF system compatible with all Canon lenses and the build quality is very compact and sturdy. On the down side, the camera can suffer from Chroma Noise, but this can go reletivly un-noticed by new comers as can the lower saturation of colours (compared to the Nikon range)
Get out and have a play with some cameras. Buying a camera is like going out and buying a car. Nobody can give you a solid right or wrong answer as cameras are very much about the individual buying them.
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Originally Posted by Charlotte
Wow, this is all so useful! I do really want to be able to shoot moving objects, especially hawks/birds so this problem with the Nikon 40 and 60 ranges could be significant. So just to ask about the problem you mention with the EOS400D, is it like colour distortion? Like where something takes on unnatural colours? I really think I'd find something like that very irritating. I think I know someone with this camera, so will see if I can have a go!
Its not a problem, no. You will be more than happy woth what Canon produces! It just means that the colours arnt quite as vibrant as what Nikon gets. Its a small difference, one of which, that unless you put a Nikon and Canon shot side by side, you wont notice it.
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Originally Posted by CLMG
Hi Charlotte,
I have the Nikon D40, and for action shots it takes about 2 1/2 pics a second, and I've got some quite nice ones of Jack with it doing agility, the lens I use at the moment is 55-200mm, but, and I may be wrong, if you have larger lenses they are heavier and you'd need a tripod, which isn't ideal when you are trying to capture a speeding dog
I have the Nikon D40, and for action shots it takes about 2 1/2 pics a second, and I've got some quite nice ones of Jack with it doing agility, the lens I use at the moment is 55-200mm, but, and I may be wrong, if you have larger lenses they are heavier and you'd need a tripod, which isn't ideal when you are trying to capture a speeding dog
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Originally Posted by Kanikula
Its not a problem, no. You will be more than happy woth what Canon produces! It just means that the colours arnt quite as vibrant as what Nikon gets. Its a small difference, one of which, that unless you put a Nikon and Canon shot side by side, you wont notice it.
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Nope nothing nasty! Just one of the small differences you will find between the two makes
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All the new AF-S lenses auto focus on the D60/D40 range
It's only really the older lenses that don't - i'e those that were designed for traditional SLR cameras.
You will probably also find that if you buy 'new' gear, you will more than likely go for AF-S lenses anyway, because the newer lenses, esp the DSLR format (DX) have had their optics optimised and designed for use with digital slrs anyway - so they will give you the best quality.
The only lens I wanted when I had just the d40 was the nifty fifty (50mm), but Nikon now have a really really nice 'new' (so will auto focus with d40/60s) 60mm that is also a macro lens. It is more expensive but the quality is fantastic.
Also even owning a D300 that works with olders lens, I would be more inclined to get 'newer' digital optimised lenses as they will give me the best quality on my camera as they have been designed with it in mind.
It's only really the older lenses that don't - i'e those that were designed for traditional SLR cameras.
You will probably also find that if you buy 'new' gear, you will more than likely go for AF-S lenses anyway, because the newer lenses, esp the DSLR format (DX) have had their optics optimised and designed for use with digital slrs anyway - so they will give you the best quality.
The only lens I wanted when I had just the d40 was the nifty fifty (50mm), but Nikon now have a really really nice 'new' (so will auto focus with d40/60s) 60mm that is also a macro lens. It is more expensive but the quality is fantastic.
Also even owning a D300 that works with olders lens, I would be more inclined to get 'newer' digital optimised lenses as they will give me the best quality on my camera as they have been designed with it in mind.
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